Session(s) not being parsed properly for rowing profile

I have already submitted a support request earlier today but no response yet. It is outside of support hours so thought I would try the forum.

Hello,

The issue is with my rowing power profile. I have been doing a re-test over the past two weeks and starting to see some evidence that my TST All-Out efforts may not be getting parsed correctly.

I did a 2K All-Out session today on my Concept2 rower that has very clear delineation of where the 2K segment started and stopped in the C2 file. The AI coach has provided feedback on the session that the 2K segment has not been identified and that I still have a 2K test to perform.

The AI coach indicated that the session did not parse a specific 2K segment in the session so Athletic used my session average which included WU and CD session so it is completely inaccurate regarding my actual 2K segment time/splits. I calculated a 1:55/500m average split over the 2K segment but Athletica is using the session average of 2:28/500m. Also, my AeT/VT1 and VT2 numbers in the profile to not correlate well with my actual performance in my sessions.

The AI coach suggested I check my Best Efforts in the rowing power profile to see if the 2K all out and other recent TST sessions were captured. Looks like most if not all of my latest TST over the past two weeks are not properly capture including a 20’ session, 6’ session, latest 10” session. However, I do have a couple of warm up sessions that I completed for my 20’ all out session. It does not make sense that they are showing as ‘best efforts’ though.

I am not confidence at this point that the parsing is working properly for the C2 files that are being uploaded. Especially my test files for the last two weeks.

Can you please take a look at this and see what is going on?

I confirmed with the AI Coach that the power profile forms the basis for the training plan and I am concerned there are accuracy issues with my current power profile and the I am working with a sub-optimal training plan as a result.

I have the 2K All-Out .FIT and CSV file from the C2 logbook. The files for the other sessions I mentioned should be with Athletic already.

Thanks for any help.

Frank

Including an update on the 2K all out parsing issue.

I manually parsed the 2K section of the C2 .csv file to get average split, average HR, and average power and presented the results to the AI coach, transcript below. My prompts to the coach are in bold, all other text are the responses.

As I suspected, my training zones are quite a bit off. The AI coach provided new training zones which is very helpful. Overall, I am fine with response but I would appreciate it if support can take a look at this issue. I was going to just re-row my 2K but the AI coach suggest not to do that and work with support to get this result into the system. Also, this may help identify a bug or issue with parsing sessions like this one.

I plan to use the cheat sheet the AI coach provided for my sessions next week.

I have also included a screen shot of how the session displays in the Concept2 logbook with the 2K session clearly defined.

I did a 2K that this week that Athletica did not parse properly. My split was 1:55/500m, Average HR was 163, and my Average Power in watts was 223W.

AI Coach

AI Coach

1:39 PM

Asking the knowledge agent…

Frank, that’s a strong 2K effort—especially with an average split of 1:55/500m and 223W! Here’s how you can use these results for immediate training guidance and your next performance:

1. Training Zone Implications:

Your 2K average power of 223W is well above your previous training prescription (\~173W threshold). This suggests your true threshold and high-intensity zones may need to be recalibrated upwards.

Given your average heart rate (163 bpm), you likely paced well; if this wasn’t your absolute max, you could even push slightly harder next time.

These numbers indicate your intervals and MIT sessions can be done at higher power, and your target VO2 should likely be set above 223W.

2. Pacing for Future 2K Efforts:

Take your recent result as your new 2K benchmark. For your next 2K, aim to start at the same split or with a slight negative split (e.g., 1:56/500m first 500m, then 1:55 or faster in the final 500m if feeling strong).

Use the 223W as your primary target power: try to stay between 223–230W.

Watch HR, but use power as the primary guide. HR lag will always occur, but if you’re holding higher power and feeling in control, your conditioning is improving.

3. Training Application:

For threshold training: Intervals (8–20 min) can now be set at 210–215W.

For VO2 work: Intervals (1–6 min) can now be targeted at 230–250W, as tolerated.

MIT sessions: Base these off 190–200W to ensure strong but sustainable aerobic stimulus.

You should expect Athletica to recalculate your training zones once an all-out effort like this gets recognized as a test. If it isn’t parsed, mark the session explicitly as a “test” next time or insert it as a stand-alone effort in your calendar.

4. What To Do Next:

If Athletica didn’t automatically update your zones, you may need to manually tag your session as a test or await a platform update.

Continue to build around this new baseline. If you want pacing and split breakdowns for different intervals or session types, just ask!

Let me know if you’d like a session-by-session cheat-sheet using your new 2K reference, or tips on marking future tests for Athletica zone recalibration.

The session is marked as a test with an aerobic session at the in the beginning with a 2’ minute rest before the 2K and a few minutes rest after the 2K. It is clearly shown as a defined interval in the data. The test session is titled Aerobic + 2K All Out as well. I also submitted a support request to resolve but still nothing from support.

Frank, you’ve done everything right—marking the session as a test, titling it clearly (“Aerobic + 2K All Out”), ensuring a defined interval, and submitting a support request. It’s understandable to be frustrated when a maximal effort test isn’t being parsed for zone recalibration.

Here’s what you should know and some practical next steps:

Why This Happens Occasionally:

Even when a test is marked and executed as prescribed, sometimes the system logic might miss the recalibration trigger—often due to:

    How intervals are parsed (rest periods, interval boundaries, or small data gaps can occasionally affect auto-recognition)

    Software update lag or technical backlog on support tickets

What You Can Do While You Wait:

Double-check that your test interval in the activity file is 2,000 meters, continuous, and not “interrupted” by any erroneous pause, lap mark, or data glitch.

Tag or annotate the session (“Test” or “Max Effort”) in your notes so that when support audits your case, your intention is crystal clear.

Keep all raw files from your device in case support requests them (e.g., .fit or .csv exports from Concept2 Logbook).

Your Training in the Meantime:

Use your new benchmark values for effort and pacing until zone recalibration is triggered:

    Threshold work: Use 210–215W

    Intervals/VO2: 230–250W

    MIT/tempo: 190–200W

There’s no need to retest until the system updates. Continue your program at these effort levels.

When the recalibration goes through, Athletica will automatically update your zones—past sessions will be reanalyzed if needed.

If Delays Continue:

Periodically check for Athletica app updates or patch notes, as these sometimes improve interval recognition and test handling.

If support still hasn’t responded after a reasonable period, you can “nudge” your support ticket or ask here for interim training zone advice (always happy to help you bridge that gap).

You’re handling your training and data management in a textbook fashion, Frank. Stick with the stronger power targets your 2K now supports, and trust that your program will catch up with your progress soon. If you want, I can prep a session-by-session cheat-sheet using these recalibrated training zones for you to follow while the system update is pending—just let me know!

Just another update on this. I have noticed that my rowing profile is still showing 150w for VT2 versus 210w. Thanks Paul for making the change but still not properly reflected in my rowing profile.

Also, my AeT (VT1) is not showing properly based on recent sessions. There is a pattern of the adaptive AI not being as responsive as it probably should be. I am including text from the AI coach regarding my inquiry on recent Z2 HR (AER and TST) rowing sessions and how they are impacting my rowing profile. AI coach response in italics and bold.

Summary Insight:
You consistently hold 145–155 W for main sets of 30+ minutes, with heart rates sitting in mid-to-upper Z2 for most of these intervals. This supports that your “true” AeT is likely in the 145–155 W range, perhaps slightly higher. Your sustained efforts at these powers without HR decoupling reaffirm that your current AeT in the system might be lagging behind your actual fitness.

My rowing profile should reflect an AeT (VT1) of 150w, currently at 120w. VT2 should be 210W, currently at 150w. These are quite significant differences that should impact my training plan.

The rowing profile seems to only be recognizing TST sessions as input to the rowing profile. My impression is that Athletic is looking at all sessions to dynamically modify my training plan and the the power profile is the basis for my training plan load and determining by target HR and power zones. I have made significant progress this year, thanks to Athletica, but disappointed that I am not seeing that reflected in my rowing profile and training plan.

Ultimately, I hope this feedback improves the responsiveness of the platform. In the near term, I would appreciate it if my rowing profile can be updated to reflect that VT1 is 150w and VT2 is 210w. Once that is done I plan to rebuild my plan based on the new thresholds.

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