When sessions change too much I need to delete in TP and resync that day, and of course only works if I’m on my desktop, but better than nothing. I use this to sync to Fuelin.
Woohoo, this solves the issue of me having to download cycling workouts then upload for my inside trainer sessions. I have a desktop at my trainer anyway for movies and programs, so this is simple.
Only a little thing, but at 5am before work, any automation is very welcome to get me on the bike easier!
Yeah I hate the rigmarole to get things from one place to another. Do you use TP virtual? Wonder what platform you use that doesn’t already integrate with intervals
I use TPVirtual, and only after your comment did I realise it integrates with Intervals natively
I have never used Intervals before as I use TrainingPeaks, so disregarded and forgot about that option when I set up TPVirtual on release. My mind was set on having to get the workout into the TP platform first.
An unnecessary step as I have now worked out!
Although it is nice having the planned workout in TP first anyway as that is what I am used to for editing lengths/adding warmups etc
Ha yeah I use TP Virtual as well, figured I would call it out. Once my nutrition tool integrates with intervals I’ll have to decide if I still want TP/TPV or just move back to Zwift
The Load in Athletica is accurate, the problem is after syncing it to intervals.
I do have Intervals setted up correctly - including FTP and preferences (power, pace etc).
I really need to get this fix in order to get intervals running.
Thanks
FWIW, I’ve set my intervals.icu FTP to match my Athletica CP, and adjusted my intervals.icu Power, HR, and Pace to do the same as closely as possible. You also need to make sure the settings in intervals.icu that determines how the Workout Load is calculated per workout type matches that used by Athletica (e.g. Based on Power(W), Heart Rate, or Pace). The load numbers don’t always completely match between the two platforms, but those changes make them a lot closer than they initially were before I made these changes…..they were an exact match for the Power-based workout I did today.
My real challenge is setting my W’ in intervals.icu, as Athletica doesn’t generate a value and the CP estimates in intervals.icu rarely comes close enough to that in Athletica that I feel comfortable to use the W’ estimate in intervals.icu. I am estimating my zero W’ based on RPE/Feel on all out efforts above CP using the charts in intervals.icu to see where I bottom out.
Attached is an example from an all out 100m and 1km test workout I did today with my Athletica CP/intervals.icu FTP set at 268W. I was completely gassed at the end of the 1km interval to the point I went passive rest for ~40 sec….so, I think this was a good check of my intervals.icu manually inputted W’ guesstimate. My attached intervals.icu W’ chart (19,800 kj) reflects I was at -2.2 W’ at the end of my 1km interval, so close enough…….
Also, both Athletica and intervals.icu (Load setting as based on “Power”) listed this Workout Load as 64.
Thank you for the comment! I have double checked the settings to make sure I have both setted up the same FTP - I do.
I checked the past workouts and I there is not much of an issue - yes the load vary slighlty if I compare platforms (I tried also comparing too TP for reference) but its not a big issue.
The big issue is in workouts imported from Athletica to Intervals, where the load is very off. I think I found the issue - running is being imported to Intervals based on power, which I do not use in running.
Is there any advice on how to turn it off?
@holkatriatlonka , if you’re not using Power for your running workouts, make sure your “Settings” in intervals.icu reflects what your priorities are for each of the preferences for your “Run” modality tab (see attached). Also, make sure your Pace running zones in intervals.icu match as closely as possible to those in Athletica
Hi @Firestop thank you! I have done all that but the issue is that workout imported from Athletica is prescribed per power, not per pace. Like this one for example:
This is data coming from Athletica. There is settings in “connections” in Garmin and other integrations how I want my workouts to be sent (pace, power, hr) but there is not such a setting for Intervals therfore this
Part of the issue appears to be resident in intervals.icu…looking at its “Workout Builder”, it does not have an option to accept specific Pace values as an input for adding intervals to workouts ( see attached) unlike the option for inputting intervals based on Power (2nd photo).
This input limitation in interval.icu may provide Athletica a challenge, but they have solved it with inputting interval HR values in intervals.icu as my Strength and Conditioning workouts from Athletica come in with only % of LTHR. @prof, wonder if something similar to that could also be done for Pace targets sent to workouts in interval.icu?
Also, you might reach out to David at intervals.icu on their users blog to see if he can add the option for specifying specific Pace ranges for individual intervals in the intervals.icu Workout Builder…he is terribly good at customer service a making updates to the platform to serve his users. This may provide Athletica a better avenue to get you what you need.
Hi @Firestop ,
Thanks for the analysis! I believe this should be feasible, based on the following:
I used the Global Library in Athletica and manually pushed a scheduled workout to Intervals. In the imported workout, it was correctly prescribed by pace, not power:
From this, it seems the core of the issue lies somewhere in the automatic sync of planned workouts — manual workout schedule and push to Intervals work as expected.
I also tried editing the planned workout directly in Intervals by modifying the description. As you mentioned, there’s no way to prescribe pace using the workout builder, but it’s actually quite simple if you write it manually in the workout description.
Here’s the original workout imported from Athletica:
(My example is a bit off since I didn’t know the actual percentages — I just threw in random numbers )
But as you can see, pace isn’t defined by a fixed value, only by percentage — which is totally fine. Athletica clearly knows how to handle that (as shown in my first example); the key is just making sure it’s included properly for all workouts sent from the plan.
What do you think @Prof can would that be achievable?
Thank you!