In the training profile the threshold cp was 271 so I changed it to what my cycling power profile has for cp which is 204 and the 30:30s are realistic targets now.
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Short update, so after I manually changed CP yesterday, it suggested a new threshold this morning of 270; it was previously 271 set by the software and reduced it manually yesterday. I accepted it, and the threshold CP has changed in the training profile to 270 (which seems right I have my FTP at 240). Iâll update later what this did to the 30:30 intervals when the plan finishes refreshing.
In my cycling power profile, these are the trends
|Year |VT1 222W, CP 284W, MAP328W, MPP1142W|
|3 months |VT1 159W, CP 204W, MAP 275W, MPP 873W|
|6 weeks|VT1 158 W CP 203 W MAP 275 W MPP 873 W|
14/07/24 athletica VO2 - 3 x 9 x 1 30/30 intervals 286 watts fitness level combined 104 bike 68
23/09/24 athletica VO2 - 3 x 9 x 1 30/30 intervals 286 watts fitness level combined 65 bike 40
29/11/24 athletica VO2 - 3 x 9 x 1 23/09/24 athletica VO2 - 3 x 9 x 1 30/30 intervals 286 watts fitness level combined 65 bike 40
29/11/24 athletica VO2 - 3 x 9 x 1 30/30 intervals 371 watts fitness level combined 60 bike 37
fitness level combined 60 bike 37
Sorry for all the questions, Paul you know I love this platform and what ye guyâs are building I just need validation of the plans
why the VO2 - 3 x 9 x 1 30/30 intervalsâincreased significantly to 371 watts when fitness has decreased?
I put my FTP at 240 at the moment, but the cycling power profile CP is 204.
Folks, this has been going on too long now, and Iâm not impressed. Iâm losing confidence in the platformâs ability to detect basic training and health metrics and prescribe the correct workouts.
here is another good example clearly showing the targets are too high after detraining for 5 months now.
For an aerobic session, Athletica prescribes 174 watts. If I do an Endurance session in on Wahoo SYSTM for the same target duration, it prescribes 143 watts. For the session, the Athletica target HR is 130 and the result of doing the lower intensity Wahoo session is 139???
I have tried triggering a new plan and changing around settings below and no change:
Let our Smart Coach choose the best option
Prescribe workouts by heart rate
Last week, there was a recommended Threshold of 270 to 250 changes that I accepted, which marginally reduced the VO2 targets but not the other sessions.
At the moment, Iâm training unstructured and plan structured training again in January. I would appreciate this being resolved before then and having confidence in the prescribed workouts.
@Pablo_ie I understand your frustration regarding the platformâs inability to accurately detect your thresholds, and I empathise with your concerns. I would feel the same way if my thresholds werenât appropriately set.
I feel like the primary reason behind these thresholds being inaccurately calibrated is likely due to how we currently track maximum efforts over extended periods. This approach doesnât always account for different training phases, such as detraining, as well as it should. This is certainly a limitation, and I agree that itâs disappointing.
We are actively working to address this and provide better solutions. Specifically, we are planning to introduce functionality that will allow you to select a time range for evaluating efforts, which will significantly improve threshold accuracy.
Our current modelling choices are designed to reflect average user behaviour, aiming to work well on average. However, adapting to individual scenarios like yours can sometimes be challenging, and in this case, itâs clear the model isnât performing as expected. I sincerely apologise for this.
I would like to prioritise these improvements, and I hope theyâll be ready before you come back to structured training in January. I truly appreciate your patience and understanding as we work towards making the platform more robust and personalised for all.
OK I can work with that, thanks
This conversation is a powerful reminder of the remarkable capabilities of the human mind.
Obviously, I declined. Baffling how the system is recommending increases.
Zone change detected. Our Smart Coach suggests updating the following bike zones:
