Test Week questions

Welcome @tgarne! Great to have you trying Athletica.

The zones can take a few hours to update (the data gets sent to our AI for processing and updating of zones, charts and prescriptions). Did they end up adjusting yet? You can also look at your cycling power curve and verify that the AI has captured your new CP/FTP from Sunday


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Hi, I just added a ā€˜recreational’ half marathon in May as part of my training toward an Ironman in August and now it makes me do another test week, even if I just did one 2 weeks ago. Can this be changed?

My plan is having me do another test week next week. I just did one last week. I did make some plan changes which explains why it’s adding it in next week, but since I just did it last week, that’s kinda ridiculous.

Also, you should drop test weeks. I think you should be able to figure out my capabilities without a ā€œtestā€.

usually you get a promt to ā€œskipā€ test week when you save your new plan…did you not get that option?

I do not recall. I did it days ago. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have selected that.

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Please regenerate new plan and toggle ā€œskip test weekā€
MJ

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I still like to have a test week when regenerating a plan, not always but sometimes, for example my trailing data may be great but I now have a significant health issue meaning that those trailing numbers won’t be attainable when I regenerate my next plan.

The platform gives us the ability to check ā€œskip test weekā€ for those that don’t need another one so there is flexibility built in. :slight_smile:

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I completed a 5K run test yesterday (over 12 hours ago) and I don’t think that I have seen any threshold values or zones change yet on my profile. Perhaps give it more time for an automatic fix? Thanks!

So after my 5k test last week, my top of Z5 was set to 163 bpm. This is the HR 10 minutes before the end of the 5k run. THe @prof said that this was rather supposed to be the average HR over the final 10 mins, which for me was a linear line from 163 to 175, so lets say somewhere in the 168-169 region. Has the prescription changed since 2023 when the Prof wrote the answer at the beginning of this long thread?

I’m attachign the trace from the last 10 or so minutes my 5k TT – the top of the red bar is the current top of zone 5, i.e. 163.

Hello All,

This is my first post here.

I’ve read through a few threads, but I ā€˜m not sure if I found the answer to this question so here goes:

I’ve set up a new plan with a test week, but I work a job that means a lot of plan shuffling needs to take place. Is it okay to move the tests across the space of two weeks and follow the aerobic work as the plan prescribes in the mean time?

I’m enjoying Athletica so far and am looking forward to seeing how I get on into the winter.

Cheers!

EDIT:

While I’m asking questions… I can see the 5K time trial has a built in warm up, but I have a protocol I already like doing consisting of jogging, activations, strides and priming. Should I record my warm up as a seperate activity and then record the TT and cooldown? Or is there another preferred method?

I don’t have any knowledge beyond observing A.ai for a couple of months, so someone should confirm.

To me, it seems that the system is capable of learning from all your efforts, whatever form they take. So whenever you run a workout, the programme slices the traces from it into various durations and tries to find the fastest times from each of those. This then builds the pace-duration curve to which various models are fit to read off your critical pace and your pace zones.

The task of test week is to give sufficient inputs to the various durations and make you put maximal effort at those particular durations. Basically the 400m, 1 km and 5k get translated into paces at around 2 min, 5 mins and 30 mins durations.

As far as I can tell, from the point of view of that algorithm, it doesn’t matter how you supply the data. For me, it is missing data at the 30 sec-60 sec end of things and it is telling to go run some intervals to collect it so that my curve looks less bad.

The tldr is that provided you run a workout with a 5k in it, even if it is just a random non-test workout with warm up and cooldown around it, it will find it and get the data it wants. So it doesn’t matter when you do the test and it doesn’t matter if it’s next to non-canonical warm ups.

But this may be just what it appears to be doing.

the curves get recalculated after every workout, adjusting your predicted paces etc.

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Thanks for the response.

That was my understanding as well. I just wondered if there was something particular about workouts denoted as tests (and the idea of the test week by extension) that I should be aware of.

Wigster hit it right on - Athletica can pick up your efforts outside of tests. But like the AI Coach was saying, Wigster was missing some efforts in recent history. Test week is designed so that by doing the prescribed workouts, ideally you can hit all the efforts to compete the full profile from MAF to HIIT to everything between. Nothing else special about the tests, just covering all the bases!

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Thanks for that.

I’m looking forward to hammering out the 5K, I’ll have to read up on how to perform the FTP test well though.

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Hi all. Maybe already touched but don’t find. I am on test week and completed my run tests, MAF and 5k, but I don’t see any change on my critical values and range both power andvHR. As I came from at least 2 weeks of doing nothing and I was really detained, I don’t think I can start my base phase with the old values…and at least this is wrong, tests needs for this. Could someone give some info on how to fix? For instance my garmin values are far away from athletica now. Tomorrow I will do bike test and I belive I will have same situation. Thank you

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Hey @Prato
I had a look at your test and values and compared to your this years data Critical Pace has gone a down tiny amount after your break. Two weeks is not enough to become detrained though, especially as you’ve been active every day :smiley: Natural fluctuations of daily form. We can’t PR every time we test, right?
If you want to change your Critical pace and HR you can do so on the Overview and Athlete zones.
MJ

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You are right!!! I have no complaints about my reduced performance, I know I’d kept a worse CP due to my actual condition, but for me is important restart with right paces to execute rightly my works. So I would like to learn how fix my new pace and power to have and I understand I can go to overview page and set it. Thank you ascalways Marjaana!!

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Hello,

I ran my 5K yesterday, but there were no notifications to adjust thresholds afterwards. When I look at my running pace profile chart I can see that my critical speed is now at 3:38 min/km, however my critical pace on the athlete zone section of the overview page is still saying 3:50.

Is this expected behaviour? should I change that the critictal pace of my training zones manually or should it auto adjust?

Thanks.

I did my FTP test today and recieved notification about adjusting my bike threshold immediatly. When I accepted the critical power on both the summary page updated and matched the value on the cycling power profile chart.

My running critical speed is still disperate.

I’m not sure if this is expected behaviour. So just want to know if I should manually adjust for running and file a bug report?

Cheers.

EDIT:

After a bit of thinking and prodding around, could it be because my work out reserve didn’t drop below 0%? The test was however the fastest 5K I’ve run since March 2024.

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Dear @PEW
if you think you should be credited for fastest 5K time in 1.5years, absolutely do submit a request ticket and back it up with your March 2024 screenshots and latest test screenshots :smiley:

Thanks, MJ

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