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Long tempo intervals today which I perform on a gently undulating quiet lane.

The AI overload was pleased with my execution. Tempo is interesting as you keep it in that L3a effort, not too easy, not too hard. Try not to stray into strength endurance., try not to drop in aerobic endurance. This is why I think a gently undulating quiet lane works for them.

On the first interval it took 60% of the time to bring workout reserve down to 30%, Then the remaining 40% of the time to bring it down to just under 10%. On the second interval I brought workout reserve down to 5%.

My usual recovery / rest day tomorrow.

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I ended up bailing halfway through the last interval. If I had gotten the ride done earlier in the day, I feel like I could have done it. However, due to an unexpected family emergency (not serious) and many hours in the hospital waiting room, my mental energy was very low.

That said, with an mWR of 1%, I succeeded in this workout. I also raised the recovery power to mid z1 and looking at the graph, I have a couple of thoughts. 1) since I was doing an extra rep vs last week, I didn’t need to raise recovery power 2) I can see that according to WR I was ā€œdoneā€ after 5 intervals, and I could feel it too.

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VO2 max long HIIT today. Hit a mWR of 3%. Meanwhile quality signage on the cycle ways.:joy:

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@Phil That is very funny! Very much in line with how road work is carried out here in Montreal as well.

Bumped the power a tiny bit from last weeks AE session and stayed nicely within the z2 range for this one. mWR of 11% is excellent and is pretty much what the data field read at the end as well.

Good rest day yesterday and pretty good sleep as well. RHR a couple of beats up from normal, but HRV is good.

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super confused by the super big watt difference.
Today 3x10 30/30er - Watt range is 347Watt - 433Watt.
If I export the workout it will use the average.
How I am supposed to do it? Should I aim for the average? For a higher or lower value? Should I stear it with RPE/Wbal or Workout Reserve? Or via HR response?

Thanks alot!
If one wanna join tonight let me know :wink:

Morning! That range gives you the option to scale up or down depending on how you are feeling that day. Feeling great? Aim higher. Feeling terrible or mentally drained? Ride the lower end. The point is to be in Z6 somewhere for the quality intervals.

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This… I tend to see how I feel on the day and then use the Zwft ERG + & - option to push harder if I want to. I go from 360W to 400W sometimes.

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I didn’t feel great today. I’ve had a stiff neck and headache since I got up. Good sleep was elusive last night. However, I geared myself up mentally for a 3x6 hiit, set the quality power up from last week (I was feeling confident) and kept the recommended recovery power knowing it would be doable.

Started the session in Zwift and noticed that all of a sudden it was 3x7… There was a moment of doubt, but what’s one more interval anyway?? mWR -1%… That was what the extra 3 intervals were for. Pretty consistent mWR less than 5% each time. Then a z2 ride to round out the hour.

Based on todays session, next weeks 4x7 should probably stay at the same level.

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Overall, this was a pretty easy workout. Started the morning with a small chocolate milk, shot of coffee and then, after waking up, hopped on the bike. Had to increase the power into lower z3b to get my HR up to z3a. RPE remained moderate.

Shower (workout) thoughts: workout recovery is affected my many factors… how does mWR affect recovery time, all other factors being equal?

edit one good night of 8 hours of sleep later and all of my metrics are back to normal. That’s how long a z3a workout can potentially be recovered from.

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Personally I think that’s a difficult one to answer, mostly because all the other factors are never equal / same. As @Prof says, mWR isn’t a physiological measure. Based on that I’d be wary trying to tie it in to recovery. Plus our ability to measure recovery is somewhat basic. We need the Star Trek tricorder.

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Not a physiological measure,missed that one, and appreciate your answer. I agree, things are never equal, the goal posts are constantly shifting. Control what you can, accept what you can’t, do your best.

And I would love a tricorder… didn’t they read more than 3 things though?

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This is how I expected the threshold session to feel last Monday. It certainly is an excellent example of how psychological stress can affect you physically as well.

Instead of bailing the final interval, I made it through while feeling more comfortable. My average HR in the final interval was about 8 bpm lower than last week. I’ve improved and can feel it. After toiling away for the first 4-6 weeks wondering if and when it will happen… it has!

Anybody having issues with the Tacx Neo app recording the workout? I rode today, went to save the workout, and the app seems down. It makes me log in, and then I immediately am told my session has expired.

So far it’s not acting like it recorded my workout, which would majorly suck haha

I replaced today’s ride with a run because it was 15 C outside. Beautiful weather!

I haven’t run since the end of December, so I erred on the side of caution and kept it really easy today. I ran until my HR started to climb and didn’t seem to be coming back down, so I walked the rest of the way. I look forward to more nice weather runs in the future!

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My main bike frame has gone off for a strip and fresh powder coat and lacquer. It’s done about 58,000km according to my Garmin account and needs some TLC. I noticed paint flaking and some surface rust on Monday.

Thus my aerobic development was on my bike N - 1. Purely N - 1 as is the bike I bought before my latest. More aero but a damn good workout going uphill. No power meter on this one and thus back to heart rate.

A wet grey day here today but still my preference to be outside than in,

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Team! It’s taper week. Ugh, not my favorite. What goes on in your head during taper week? Let’s hear it.

These are some of the stuff I always go through. My mood and thoughts are as irrational and unpredictable as Texas Spring Weather. One day hot and humid, the next windy and cold. I think I’m at the right place :smiley:

I think we have these thoughts because our minds and bodies are getting ready for something really difficult. I know the battle between my ego who tends to take the easy route and not push the envelope in case we fail and come home tail in-between our legs. See how I use ā€œweā€. I’ve even named my ego: Paivi. Paivi is the little voice in my head that is always commenting and typically the comments are negative, like ā€œyou didn’t run enoughā€, or ā€œyou didn’t run long hard efforts enough, so you should probably take it safe and start a little slowerā€. Paivi is a dominant voice during taper week. But I know Paivi is also a coward, and I’ve worked with Paivi before, and I tell her to take a hike the closer to race day we get. At Start Line, it’s just Me. Marjaana, the Courageous, ready to kick some ass.

The ego wants me to stay safe and not do hard things. I love doing hard things. Taper week is mentally probably one of the hardest things in racing. All the hard work is done and I’m kind of spinning wheels all week. Waiting, anticipating, and planning. It’s a mental rollercoaster! You know what I’m talking about… Surely I can’t be the only one…

So what to do when you want out of the rollercoaster? Meditate! Clean the house. Learn something new. Whatever you’ve not done when you were amid a big training block, like catching up on a pile of papers on your desk. Write a forum post to see if anyone can relate. Bring your stress levels down- I find meditation can help me connect with my bigger purpose and bring focus back to the moment at hand, and it also helps me be a little kinder to myself.

Curious to know.. what goes through your head during the week leading up to a race? What do you do to bring your nerves down?

MJ

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Taper week is always a challenge because I have so much time on my hands!
Good luck in the marathon!

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I felt rested going into the session and my HR during the warmup agreed. I managed to set the power to near the top end of z2 for the duration of the session. Final 12 minutes started to get challenging with my legs burning, but it was easy to push through. HR drifted towards the top of z2, but stayed within range.

mWR of 1%, aerobic decoupling of 5% and an EF that continues to trend slowly upwards!

high five

I have a taper coming up in a few weeks… I’ll chime in then with my thoughts in fitness loss and not doing enough.

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Do yall find any extra enjoyment in having something like zwift running with your workout?

I typically just run youtube videos or netflix, but I always wonder if there’s some benefit to zwift from an enjoyment perspective?

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I’m into Zwift for the moment. Cx races on YouTube are fun too.

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